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. perhaps some of it is an awareness or an education about resource he he that are available. there's a whole gamut of people available to remove graffiti, people who have never done it before, maybe they're painters but they just have access to materials and they are used to taking paint off. i guess farther down the spectrum of people that have never done it before and just want to be good citizens to remove graffiti. then you go up through -- you know, people who just specialize in graffiti removal. there's people who, you know, more like me who get technically involved and we test everything. you've got vendors out there that are selling you products, including antigraffiti coatings. so, i think there's a level of what the significance of the historic building, if we're talking about the white house or the national monument, you know, we'll always get -- usually find people who are super well qualified. and then if it's -- you know, if it were my house and it was built in the 1920s, i might get more ghosting. it's just a matter of -- not me. i would do a good job. [laughter] >>
the world. and san francisco there is a need to have an education campaign to identify heritage buildings following the model of the city of edmonton where it is done in coordination with the heritage society. do you have suggestions to accomplish this in san francisco? i guess this is the san francisco folks. >> yeah, i think there is already. i'm the expert on the materials, but i think there is a system through your 311 calls here in san francisco, is that for example, if it's on art, it goes to the arts commission and they have a different way of addressing graffiti abatement. and i believe with historic buildings and structures it should be the same. i don't know if it is or not. but that's a really good point because sometimes the approach for addressing a paintment on a historic or cultural monument or building is going to be a little bit different than approaching it on a replacable cement or brick wall. so, making the coordinations is going to be very important. the point i think that you are addressing in your question about the shadowing is i think the effort that's behind that
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